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my belief is every religion has an origin story. i never focused too much on that. i find the structure of the church interesting though. is there any other church that you know of that is structured like it in terms of paying to kind of move up through the hierarchy of the church. >> nothing like that comes to mind. it's very expensive. if you want to climb -- if you walk into the door of scientology today and you go all of the way to the top of the pyramid, half a million dollars or more just for -- you get the course work but then you're continually asked for money. >> the church is very upset about the book. they say mr. wright showed the church he has no interest in the facts only lies and exaggerations being fed to him by angry, bitter sources with agendas based on hatred and revenge. the result is a biassed work. >> i want to just say about that disclaimer from the church. first of all, you can only talk to the people that will talk to you. i asked repeatedly to talk to upper level executives and the opportunity was foreclosed to me. i spoke to more than 250
my belief is every religion has an origin story. i never focused too much on that. i find the structure of the church interesting though. is there any other church that you know of that is structured like it in terms of paying to kind of move up through the hierarchy of the church. >> nothing like that comes to mind. it's very expensive. if you want to climb -- if you walk into the door of scientology today and you go all of the way to the top of the pyramid, half a million dollars or...
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to be able to work with each other a respect of our religious divides and the problem is that when religion is used as a tool the it can have ramifications that extend well beyond the confines of all the communities so that's where the problem lies so daniel we should decide the quality of democracy is ours and i don't i don't characterize a billion people go ahead daniel respond go ahead please if i did i don't characterize a billion people but if you were call my first point is that we're fighting. with some muslims against other muslims are plenty of muslims who don't want islam islam and we are sometimes helping them as a mali and sometimes we're working against them but i am not characterizing a billion people i'm saying there are many divisions in the muslim world and i think we should help the modern secular muslims because they are the people see the world like we do we won't always win we want they won't always win but we should help them they're the people that we have a philosophical moral and practical connection to. i'm not characterizing what i'm saying that we should use our
to be able to work with each other a respect of our religious divides and the problem is that when religion is used as a tool the it can have ramifications that extend well beyond the confines of all the communities so that's where the problem lies so daniel we should decide the quality of democracy is ours and i don't i don't characterize a billion people go ahead daniel respond go ahead please if i did i don't characterize a billion people but if you were call my first point is that we're...
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the others were allowed to control matters of religion and birth and marriage and it was thought by ben gurren that these people who were already small in number and fairly isolated would eventually play themselves out. the early secular zionists thought the ultra-orttext would kind of die out. ey didn't. they have lots of babies and their families grow and grow, and, "therefore, their proportion is larger. they don't serve in the military. they get enormous subsidies so that their kids can just study and not entertain mainstream of society. and main stream israeli society-- not just secular society-- is tired of that. they're tired of footing the bill. they're tired of seeing their kids serve in the military and not their kids. and yair lapid exemplifies it. >> rose: dennis, weigh in now having listened to both of them, and you've spent as much time as anybody i know representing the united states in the region. >> i agree with pretty much both what david and port said. let me just add a couple of point, one picking up on the last theme of sharing the burden. you you know, there is a j
the others were allowed to control matters of religion and birth and marriage and it was thought by ben gurren that these people who were already small in number and fairly isolated would eventually play themselves out. the early secular zionists thought the ultra-orttext would kind of die out. ey didn't. they have lots of babies and their families grow and grow, and, "therefore, their proportion is larger. they don't serve in the military. they get enormous subsidies so that their kids...
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so why would you choose scientology, perhaps the most stigmatized religion in this country? >> what do you think it does for people? that's the thing i sort of can't get to the bottom of. what does it give people? >> at the beginning level, when you go in and get auditing, which is their form of therapy, a lot of people feel like they are helped. in fact, that's what draws people in. they ask, what is ruining your life? what is your ruin? and if you say, well, it's my relationship or my profession or something, they say we have something that can help you. and sometimes that's true. >> and is recruiting celebrities, going -- they have this celebrity center in hollywood. was that a conscious effort by the church, and is that for pr reasons? >> oh, absolutely. these are product endorsements. but the church of scientology was created in los angeles. the celebrity center in hollywood, all of it with the design to take over the entertainment industry. you know, there were people that they were actively recruiting. they were always looking for that exemplary figure that could repr
so why would you choose scientology, perhaps the most stigmatized religion in this country? >> what do you think it does for people? that's the thing i sort of can't get to the bottom of. what does it give people? >> at the beginning level, when you go in and get auditing, which is their form of therapy, a lot of people feel like they are helped. in fact, that's what draws people in. they ask, what is ruining your life? what is your ruin? and if you say, well, it's my relationship...
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the others were allowed to control matters of religion and birth and marriage, and it was thought by ben gurren that these people who were already small in number and fairly isolated would eventually play themselves out. the early secular zionists thought the ultra-orttext would kind of die out. they didn't. they have lots of babies and their families grow and grow, and, "therefore, their proportion is larger. they don't serve in the military. they get enormous subsidies so that their kids can just study and not entertain mainstream of society. and main stream israeli society-- not just secular society-- is tired of that. they're tired of footing the bill. they're tired of seeing their kids serve in the military and not their kids. and yair lapid exemplifies it. >> rose: dennis, weigh in now, having listened to both of them, and you've spent as much time as anybody i know representing the united states in the region. >> i agree with pretty much both what david and port said. let me just add a couple of point, one, picking up on the last theme of sharing the burden. you you know, ther
the others were allowed to control matters of religion and birth and marriage, and it was thought by ben gurren that these people who were already small in number and fairly isolated would eventually play themselves out. the early secular zionists thought the ultra-orttext would kind of die out. they didn't. they have lots of babies and their families grow and grow, and, "therefore, their proportion is larger. they don't serve in the military. they get enormous subsidies so that their kids...
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all of the other things that differentiate us and make us unique whether gender or race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you are there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. i can tell you from my my first hand experience that whether in training or deployed setting those things are not what's crossing your mind when you are operating. >> but make no mistake when she talked about gender there, what women will have to do to join these front line units is pass the same standards of physical fitness, scholastic, it will all have to be the same as the men. this will be gender neutral. >> do we know how quickly this will happen? >> the pentagon says they want to have an implementation process and get it done by 2016. there is still a big outclause on all of this. the services, military units could say at the end of the day they want an exemption and they don't think they can have women in the units. you hear the same issues, personal hygiene, can women pass the physical requirements, all of this still on the table. so panetta knows and c
all of the other things that differentiate us and make us unique whether gender or race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you are there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. i can tell you from my my first hand experience that whether in training or deployed setting those things are not what's crossing your mind when you are operating. >> but make no mistake when she talked about gender there, what women will have to do to join these...
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all of the other things that differentiate us, make us unique, whether it be gender or race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you're there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. i can tell you from my own fi t firsthand experience as well as the many, many people i've had the honor of serving with, whether in training or in a deployed setting, those things are not what's crossing your mind when you're operating. >> should there be jobs that are not open to women? i mean are there some positions that really women cannot do? >> i don't think so. i think that really you have to look at what are the qualifications, what are the standards necessary for a specific job that are already in place and opening those doors to anyone who has volunteered to serve our country, if they meet those standards, that should be the setting. i think we've heard from john mccain, for example. his concern about making sure that the high physical fitness standards are kept, and i agree. i think in some of these jobs that do require a great amount of physical fit
all of the other things that differentiate us, make us unique, whether it be gender or race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you're there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. i can tell you from my own fi t firsthand experience as well as the many, many people i've had the honor of serving with, whether in training or in a deployed setting, those things are not what's crossing your mind when you're operating. >> should there be jobs...
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whether it be gender, race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you're there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. >>> just in to cnn, brand newic pi pictures of a fire that reignited at a warehouse in chicago. it broke out tuesday night. firefighters were forced to fight it in freezing temperatures, it rows over, looked like an ice castle after it was doused with water. now the fire has started again and it really is extraordinary to see that picture there. the ice is now melting that's the one effect of the fire. the building so badly damaged in the bridgeport section it will have to be knocked down. >> they expected it would rekindle, that's why they had the crews around it but still when you look at that, they can only fight it from the outside it's a big problem for them. >>> can we return to the manti te'o story, please? >> sure. >> we have so many questions, so much that i still do not understand, after weeks and weeks of silence, we now know that he is speaking out to katie couric. we'll get a chance to hear the interview today
whether it be gender, race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you're there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. >>> just in to cnn, brand newic pi pictures of a fire that reignited at a warehouse in chicago. it broke out tuesday night. firefighters were forced to fight it in freezing temperatures, it rows over, looked like an ice castle after it was doused with water. now the fire has started again and it really is extraordinary to...
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being of hindu religion and of saw samoan background, i think it's about time we had leadership from the furtherrest western part of our country that's represented through her in hawaii where we have great promises to be able to move the this country through the pacific rim and make sure that we have a democratic party that understands the pacific rim much better than we have in the past. so i look forward to a really great, diverse group. and i love to hear the names like munoz, durasno. those are good, great names. [applause] and what that means is this asian person with this asian face don't have to go to nevada and into new mexico and texas and speak spanish, because we already got some folks already part of this thing. and i just want to say to my friend lynn -- linda chavez, when we were campaigning the very first, thank you for letting me serenade you when i was first running. because without that ability to serenade you, i don't think anybody would have known who that asian guy was. [laughter] and i just have to tell you that y'all made it possible for a child of a sharecropp
being of hindu religion and of saw samoan background, i think it's about time we had leadership from the furtherrest western part of our country that's represented through her in hawaii where we have great promises to be able to move the this country through the pacific rim and make sure that we have a democratic party that understands the pacific rim much better than we have in the past. so i look forward to a really great, diverse group. and i love to hear the names like munoz, durasno. those...
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we knew his religion was extremely important to him. he seemed like a very nice guy, like a very thoughtful guy. that continued through college and i followed this story as well and was at the heisman ceremony when he was talking about this stuff when apparently he had already been told it was a hoax. it's just really weird and raises a lot of questions. >> manti te'o, gail, released some of the voice mails that he said came from this person that he believed to be lennay, the girlfriend online. let me play a clip. >> hi, i'm just telling you know i got here and i'm getting ready for my first session and just want to call you to keep you posted. i miss you. i love you. bye. babe, i'm just calling to say good night. i love you. i know that you're probably doing homework or you're with the boys or i want to say i love you and good night. i'll be okay tonight. i'll do my best. yeah. so get your rest and i'll talk to you tomorrow. i love you so much, hun. sweet dreams. i don't know who answered your phone and i don't care. i swear on my life
we knew his religion was extremely important to him. he seemed like a very nice guy, like a very thoughtful guy. that continued through college and i followed this story as well and was at the heisman ceremony when he was talking about this stuff when apparently he had already been told it was a hoax. it's just really weird and raises a lot of questions. >> manti te'o, gail, released some of the voice mails that he said came from this person that he believed to be lennay, the girlfriend...
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our country trying to exploit our beliefs and other individuals that have other beliefs about their religion and their gods? we have they warfare going on around this country. we are talking about gun control. if i want to see somebody taken now, why do have to go inside a school? guest: i want to thank the caller for his service in vietnam. this is one of the big shifts in its war effort than i write about in my book. the major philosophy for insurgents was socialism, communism, often allied with nationalism. that change in 1979 we saw the rise of jihadism as the dominant force driving terrorism around the world. he saw that with the takeover of the embassy in iran. he saw that with the soviet invasion of afghanistan. you saw all those things coming together in a way that empowered jihadists. tendency to saya tennesse that they are fanatical. the history suggests otherwise. and proper strategy that we implemented in iraq which focused on security and tries to provide some of the legitimate needs of the people who want economic growth and jobs and freedom. a strategy like that can be success
our country trying to exploit our beliefs and other individuals that have other beliefs about their religion and their gods? we have they warfare going on around this country. we are talking about gun control. if i want to see somebody taken now, why do have to go inside a school? guest: i want to thank the caller for his service in vietnam. this is one of the big shifts in its war effort than i write about in my book. the major philosophy for insurgents was socialism, communism, often allied...
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it is exploitation and hijacking of an old and honored religion and what we need to do is find a way -- and this is something we have to work at -- for people to understand the degree to which that is happening and becoming in some places an excuse for their disenfranchisement, of being deprived of good can governance, jobs, opportunity and one of our missions is to not let that be an excuse. so i think that carrying the banner of religious tolerance, of diversity and pluralism is critical. we have raised that with president morsi. i think i was the first american to meet with the president before he even knew he was a candidate. and we talked about the need for the brotherhood to be able to respect the diversity of egypt. now that hasn't happened completely as we would like in the constitutional process. but as i said, that's an ongoing process and we need to work together to try to do it. but senator, you raise a central, central issue with respect to what is happening to the politics of certain regions of the world. and it's got to be front and center in our dialogue. >> thank you
it is exploitation and hijacking of an old and honored religion and what we need to do is find a way -- and this is something we have to work at -- for people to understand the degree to which that is happening and becoming in some places an excuse for their disenfranchisement, of being deprived of good can governance, jobs, opportunity and one of our missions is to not let that be an excuse. so i think that carrying the banner of religious tolerance, of diversity and pluralism is critical. we...